Comments on Between Two Worlds: An Ode to Free Will

He's just posted the video and not even commented....

2007-10-27T04:11:00.000-05:00

He's just posted the video and not even commented.

As far as mocking goes, the Arminians in the video are speaking for themselves!

I believe MLS left a comment...by C.H. Spurgeon. C...

2007-09-13T18:14:00.000-05:00

I believe MLS left a comment...by C.H. Spurgeon. Correct? I went to PCC, and funny thing - so did Spurgeon's 7th generation grandson. I don't agree with everything they do or say, but I will tell you this - You'd better go where God wants you to go, no matter WHAT you think you like or don't like. If you don't obey, you will be miserable! I recommend this college in this way... Yes, it has rules. If you can handle it - GO! Yes, it has theology problems - EVERY PLACE DOES. If you know God wants you there, go. Don't choose it for cost, or anything other than God.

WOW! Sure hit a hot button with this one!I guess w...

2007-04-12T11:51:00.000-05:00

WOW! Sure hit a hot button with this one!

I guess we'll have eternity to sort this one out.

Xplorer 1

Sorry.email: g_mblewett@yahoo.com

2007-02-08T08:39:00.000-06:00

Sorry.

email: g_mblewett@yahoo.com

I was just wondering if anyone at all knows where ...

2007-02-08T08:36:00.000-06:00

I was just wondering if anyone at all knows where to find the author and composer of this "piece" of music?

I would really like to know who in the world is behind this drivel.

Thanks.

Great. Now I have Pepsi all over my new keyboard.....

2007-01-31T19:05:00.000-06:00

Great. Now I have Pepsi all over my new keyboard...

FWIW, many fundamentalists do not consider PCC a r...

2007-01-16T15:40:00.000-06:00

FWIW, many fundamentalists do not consider PCC a reputable school. Nearly all of the fundamentalists with whom I am acquainted think PCC is a terrible college.

Between PCC's KJV-onlyism and their Arminianism, no Christian should recommend Pensacola to any young person no matter how low their tuition is.

"If our religion be of our own getting or making, ...

2007-01-14T23:03:00.000-06:00

"If our religion be of our own getting or making, it will perish; and the sooner it goes, the better; but if our religion is a matter of God's giving, we know that He shall never take back what He gives, and that, if He has commenced to work in us by His grace, He will never leave it unfinished."

- C.H. Spurgeon

"There does not appear any greater evil in the dis...

2007-01-12T06:45:00.000-06:00

"There does not appear any greater evil in the disputes concerning matters of religion, than the persuading ourselves that our salvation or God's glory are lost by every little difference. As for me, I exhort my scholars, not only to distinguish between the true and the false according to Scripture, but also between the essential articles of faith, and the less essential articles, by the same Scripture."

--Jacobus Arminius

Meh. I couldn't get over the fact that the PCC gir...

2007-01-09T09:28:00.000-06:00

Meh. I couldn't get over the fact that the PCC girls wore blazers that I could NEVER find during the time I spent there.

"accepted salvation".....where is that in the Bibl...

2007-01-09T07:38:00.000-06:00

"accepted salvation".....where is that in the Bible?.....

If I evangelize someone "Arminian" style (altar ca...

2007-01-08T19:46:00.000-06:00

If I evangelize someone "Arminian" style (altar call and all) and they come to Christ by grace alone through faith alone, are they really saved?
If so, it seems like there is a lot of vitriol over an "in-house" Christian issue.

As a side note, maybe I haven't been to the "worst of the worst" Arminian-style churches, but I have probably been subject to some "horrible" teaching by many reformed folks standards, yet I have never seen a preacher focus on man over God.

All I gotta say is "AMEN changed guy!"

2007-01-08T16:54:00.000-06:00

All I gotta say is "AMEN changed guy!"

Some "evangelist" came to our church and sang that...

2007-01-08T13:53:00.000-06:00

Some "evangelist" came to our church and sang that song. It didn't get an amen, thankfully. It is so heretical! Good thing the music is distasteful.

I accepted Christ because I didn't have any choice...

2007-01-08T10:19:00.000-06:00

I accepted Christ because I didn't have any choice. :)

So was that song predestined to suck, or does it s...

2007-01-07T21:14:00.000-06:00

So was that song predestined to suck, or does it suck of its own free will?

Okay, after that comment, I have to say Im glad people are calling it out. Talk about trying to make the gospel politically correct. When a song pretty much says that God will only save you if its okay with you, but would never want to in any way make you feel uncomfortable or force you into anything, because that would be just plain mean to make you feel bad, you know that its just trying to make you feel good about yourself. Im glad it was in Gods plan for me to feel completely broken before I accepted salvation. Otherwise it wouldnt be lasting, real, or worth anything. I do believe that the Bible says that salvation is an act of God, by the way.

Guys, maybe we should lighten up, realize its not ...

2007-01-06T17:28:00.000-06:00

Guys, maybe we should lighten up, realize its not a personal attack and laugh at the expense of a horrendous song- as one so eloquently put it; "theologically, liturgically, and musically"-

Someone above said that this is more along the lin...

2007-01-06T17:14:00.000-06:00

Someone above said that this is more along the lines of Pelagius (sp?). You are correct. He set forth that man wasn't completely fallen in Adam and that man was basically good (sound familiar?) his main principle?....that man's will was absolutely free. Many are falling into this deception because they want to be their own God.

What truly amazes me about this clip is that they are praising their "choice" not God. Twisting it to say that God's greatest love was this gift of free will....seems like the Pastor says something like this at the end.....but I am telling you that God's greatest gift of love was that He sent His Son to die on a cross, not man's will. According to the Bible we are absolutely corrupted by sin.

What really astonishes me...It’s as if they think God is doing us a favor by allowing us to have a “free will”, when in fact that would guarantee our condemnation.

As for one of the "Anonymous" comments....I was trying to figure all this out about 3 months ago.....and PRAISE God! He opened my eyes to it and if you get some legitamite materials to read and read your Bible in sync....you will clearly see it....it's there and we don't like it because we MUST come completely to the end of ourselves and rely solely on Christ...Who is God in the flesh, BTW. Free will was my biggest struggle to understand and finally God opened my eyes much like He did Lydia (Acts 16:14)

I pray that you seek these truths in prayer and you might come to the same understanding, LORD willing....that these type folks may not be saved at all because they believe THEY started their faith with their "choice"....and clearly Scripture that Christ is the author and finisher of our faith (Hebrews 12:2).

As for predestination this is pretty clear to me in Romans 9,10, 11.....I am deeply troubled by those that say they dont believe in it because that is saying you dont believe the Bible, predestination is there.

These folks could be believers, but Christ said that there will be tares amongst the wheat. That's false converts INSIDE the church. I submit they are decieved much like I was, but I repented once I realized the truth. The other issue they have is that they think their "belief" is what saves them, it is not. It is grace by faith accompanied by repentance (which is preceeded and followed with) that saves you and both are gifts from God. It's all there in the Bible.

Finally, Jesus warned that on that Day many will say "Lord, Lord did we not....." you fill in the blank. I for one will not kneel there and say "I chose You, LORD...I chose You!"

If it's ridicule, then it's ridicule. However, we should be warning as many folks as possible to false doctrines and make true believers aware of false teachings and doctrines. Jesus warned us and so did the Apostles....who were also sarcastic too, and so were the Prophets.

Two thoughts of Scripture:

"And what I do I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light." (2Co 11:12-14)

Acts 18:9,10
And the Lord said to Paul one night in a vision, "Do not be afraid, but go on speaking and do not be silent, for I am with you, and no one will attack you to harm you, for I have many in this city who are my people." (note that Jesus did not say "all" He said "many".

Soli Deo Gloria!

I'm just still trying to get past the fact that so...

2007-01-06T09:31:00.000-06:00

I'm just still trying to get past the fact that someone seriously decided to ryhme "thousand hills" with "whippoorwills".

In the words of Miss Daisy, "I hope I don't spit up."

In general, I'm not a big fan of songs that put words in God's mouth, whether the theology is good or not. Besides, didn't God say adding to his words was kind of a no-no?

Dry. funny. sad.

2007-01-06T08:08:00.000-06:00

Dry. funny. sad.

i work as a church secretary and pensacola christi...

2007-01-05T13:59:00.000-06:00

i work as a church secretary and pensacola christian college sent us a brochure with some specific classes they were offering. one is a refute to calvinism. i personally hate the label, but the Bible is very clear regarding the doctrines of grace. when you begin studying scripture in context you realize it speaks of being saved by grace alone EVERYWHERE! there is no sense in arguing. God is the one who opens the eyes to see.

Hi John,Why does the inclusion of the word "only" ...

2007-01-05T13:32:00.000-06:00

Hi John,

Why does the inclusion of the word "only" make the following words a "YIKES moment"?

"and if you want me to I'll make you whole,
I'll only do though, if you say so."

Suppose I speak or sing to someone and say, "God will ONLY save you [make you whole] if you call upon him in faith, i.e. ask him to do so with a believing heart". What would be wrong with that?

Does God save mature sinners [people who can understand lyrics] any other way than through faith alone in the gospel offer? The act of faith is an absolute requirement in order to be justified or to be united with Christ and his merits, correct? Or is there some other way?

ynotty, It is the word "only" in that lyric: "I'll...

2007-01-05T11:59:00.000-06:00

ynotty,

It is the word "only" in that lyric: "I'll only do so, if you say so."

That is a YIKES moment.

Is this a live feed from HELL?Tim

2007-01-05T11:14:00.000-06:00

Is this a live feed from HELL?

Tim

There are certain things you don't have to make fu...

2007-01-05T11:11:00.000-06:00

There are certain things you don't have to make fun of, becuase any attempt at making fun of them falls short of the unintentional comedy of the thing itself (ht: bob hyatt for what he calls hyatt's law www.bobblog.typepad.com).

This clip meets that criteria. Don't make fun or call it out, your comments don't hold a candle to the hilarity and putridity of actually watching it.