Dever: What Is the Gospel?
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posted by JT at Sunday, September 14, 2008
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10 Comments:
We all deserve physical and spiritual death for our sins.
The Gospel teaches that God no longer requires atonement in our own blood, through observance of numerous ordinances of the Law, or through repeated futile shedding of the blood of animals for our sins, which was only a foreshadow of the final atonement which cleared the way for us to make permanent reconciliation with our Creator.
That Gospel is good news so simple it can be understood by a child. Men are saved by grace through faith in our risen Lord Jesus Christ, who was sent by His Father to suffer and die as expiation for the transgressions of the whole world.
By the power of the Holy Spirit, Jesus was raised from the dead to endless life, and if we renounce the devil and make Jesus the Lord of our life, we have a share of that same eternal life, because the risen Lord abides within us and lives his eternal life through us.
I was blessed by the book What is a healthy Church and what is a healty church member in which this was explained. I had never been able to clearly know what it was that I was believing, but I was not going to give up until I found it. Thanks be to the Father for ministry gifts like Mark Dever and 9Marks Minstry.
It is also helpful when we talk with people who claim salvation, to know what probing questions to ask. There is a great difference in believe for the sake of believing and knowing what you believe and why.
It's nice to hear people talk about recreation and the new heavens and earth in relation to the gospel. To me it looks like the good aspects of the theology of N.T. Wright have rubbed off on Mark Dever. Or maybe Dever just always preached that.
I'm disappointed that the podcasts of these videos from the Gospel Coalition are no longer available.
I hope JT reads this and uses his considerable sway to get them up again. They could be archived at archive.org for nothing, if the issue is where to put them.
Jeremy,
I hope Dever is not influence by N.T. Wright, at least in the realm of justification, and it sounds like he is not, because he alludes to the imputation of the righteousness of Christ. This is a core doctrine of protestants and something that N.T. Wright rejects. That is simply not gospel, we must ensure we have a proper understanding of sactification and justification and not confuse the two, lest we would have something to boast before God, but nay, we boast Christ and Christ alone!
Thankfully, relating the new heavens and the new earth to the gospel was not something invented by N.T. Wright. Vos developed it well before Wright in "The Pauline Eschatology," and he did it without all of Wright's problems regarding justification.
it's clear from a couple of the 9marks interviews that dever is not really impressed with much of what wright says. check out his interview with dick lucas and another with ligon duncan on the new perspective.
Another interview Dever does contra Wright is with Simon Gathercole. I think it's safe to say the Dever clearly opposes N.T. Wright's innovations on justification.
At this year's Together for the Gospel conference, Dever spent a fair amount of time strongly criticizing some of Wright's views about the application of the gospel to culture and society. In fact, if anything, I felt Dever might have gone to far in spiritualizing the gospel and neglecting the connection between the cultural mandate and the New Heavens and the New Earth that Wright perhaps over-emphasizes.
Q: Does the Gospel, as it is understood and recited in academic evangelical circles (particularly the New Reformed movement, i.e. T4G, GC, etc.), leap from resurrection to re-creation, or do they consider Christ's ascension and the Father and Son's sending of the Spirit (Pentecost) to be included in the great news? I ask this sincerely.
I wish Dever would have taken a few more seconds to make his explanation Trinitarian. He could have specified that his participation in the new creation is by the Spirit. He would agree, I'm sure, but I wonder if the Holy Spirit is commonly excluded from the evangelical definition of Gospel.
I know if I were evangelizing, if I filmed a video like this for potentially unbelieving people to see and hear, I would have mentioned the now reigning kingdom of the ascended Christ and the current activity of the Holy Spirit, shattering hardened hearts and illuminating darkened eyes. I do appreciate his inclusion of the eschatological new heavens and new earth, all things new.
I just take great delight every time I hear Trinitarian language. I didn't hear it here.
Teresita,
I guess some of us who have read your profile are glad you're here posting because at least you're reading and listening to good presentations of the gospel. It does lead me to ask why though? I wouldn't want to drive you away but why would a Taoist in a long term lesbian relationship spend the time to write about how God saves sinners when you don't evidence the same? Have you repented from these sins and put your faith in Christ recently and just haven't gotten around to changing your profile?
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