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Friday, January 18, 2008

McCain: The Best Pro-Life Choice?

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So argued by Gerard Bradley, professor of law at the University of Notre Dame. Excerpt: "He has served in Congress for 24 years, and cast a lot of votes on abortion legislation during that time. His record is not merely exemplary — it is perfect. McCain’s votes on abortion really could not be better."

Here's the ending of the article:
I mentioned a recent South Carolina advertisement about McCain’s pro-life voting record. As good as that record is, the ad contained still more powerful evidence of his pro-life convictions. This part of the ad shows Cindy McCain walking beside a diminutive Catholic nun. Mrs. McCain is holding an infant in her arms. It is (the ad text says) “little Bridget, a baby she and John adopted in 1993 from Mother Teresa’s orphanage in Bangladesh. Bridget has been a great blessing to the McCain family.”

Indeed she has. But there is a little more to the story than is there told. For one thing, there were two babies. Mrs. McCain brought home a second infant from the same orphanage. That baby became the adopted child of the McCain’s best friends. Second, Mrs. McCain did not go to the orphanage in order to adopt. While she was touring the facility, Mother Teresa unexpectedly said to her (in so many words): “If you do not take those two babies with you, now, they could die right here. But you can save them.” Cindy McCain did.

I believe that there is a profound lesson here about what it means to be pro-life, a lesson which goes beyond the important (but obvious) fact that the McCains live by the same principles which lie behind John’s voting record. “Little Bridget” was not sought out by the McCains. She was not expected or planned for. She was an unanticipated gift whom the McCains welcomed, not because she was antecedently “wanted” by them, but because she was a baby, a unique and unrepeatable human being with a right to life because she is a human being and not because some other people’s plans include her — or don’t.

19 Comments:

Blogger Daniel D. Farmer said...

What a fantastic example of a lived out pro-life witness!

1/18/2008 03:02:00 PM  
Blogger Bull said...

I like the McCains and am proud of them for doing what they have done. However, I dont think he's the best pro-life candidate. Huckabee is. McCain is good, Huckabee is better. Huckabee is actually the only one that agrees with the Republican platform and supports an amendment to protect life. Also, McCain does support abortion in cases of rape and incest. I think these two are not good. It does not change the fact that those babies are people. He hasnt really thought that through. It doesnt make them less people that they were products of rape or incest. Huckabee is passionate to the core about this issue.
The best thing to do would be to elect Huckabee and McCain for vice president. Huckabee would fight the most because he has garnered the most support from people that hold the abortion isse dear. He will by NO MEANS betray them.

1/18/2008 03:47:00 PM  
Blogger Bull said...

And my point is that Huckabee does not think federalism applies in this instance. The rest of the candidates do. I agree with Huckabee. It would not make sense to let the states decide if murder should be legal or not, not does it make sense for them to decide whether the murder of abortion is right or not. An amendment is what is needed. It needs to be nationally outlawed.

1/18/2008 03:50:00 PM  
Blogger Nicholas Byfleet said...

I disagree, on pure experience Ron Paul is the best choice. He is a licensed OBGYN who delivered over 4000 babies and if elected would amend the constitution to protect the sanctity of life - however he will in all likelihood not be elected.

1/18/2008 05:09:00 PM  
Blogger Jon C said...

However, since the trilateralists, bilderbergers and CFR have decided along with their Illuminati masters that Ron Paul should not be elected, his jolly band of followers work in vain. :).

Ron Paul just seems to be hanging around with the conspiracy crowd a bit too much for my taste. Plus, his foreign policy ideas are a total joke.

1/18/2008 05:29:00 PM  
Blogger David said...

McCain's may be in favor of life before that life is born and has choices, but I'll be damned if he's pro-life anywhere else. His comment about possibly needing to stay in Iraq for 100 years shows that he is perfectly fine with bloodbaths elsewhere.

Jon C.,

What exactly do you take issue with about Ron Paul's foreign policy? Is it that he wants us to treat others as we would want to be treated or that he wants us to remove the plank from our own eye before removing the speck from anothers?

1/18/2008 05:55:00 PM  
Blogger Bull said...

By the way, Ron Paul doesnt support an amendment to the Constitution. He believes the states should decide. The only way he would amend it is if the states all agreed. Just wanted to point that out. Friends, 1.2 million or so children each year in THIS country are murdered mostly because of reasons of comfort.(money, image, age, etc.) This is unnacceptable and cannot be ignored. We must elect someone who is passionate enough about this issue that it is one of the main reasons he even got into politics....Go Huckabee!!

He's also good on education,(arkansas went from 49 to 8), 2nd amendment, immigration(jim gilchrist endorsed him), taxes (dont believe the hype...he was a great governor...and created lots of new jobs...) And besides all of that, he would be a president that would tell us the truth and would communicate with us. And I wouldnt be surprised if he put a lot of his competitors on his cabinet. He can work with people,....people.

And most of all, He's fight for the unborn. 40 million dead in the last 35 years since Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton. Do the right thing guys. He's not Jesus, but he'd sure try to display a Christlike character in the White House.

1/18/2008 07:45:00 PM  
Blogger Bull said...

Also, (and seriously I dont know if this stuff is true) ...but could anyone tell me if any of this information is credible? It seems that this would conflict with what that author wrote about McCain's record concerning prolife.(I mean the fact that there WAS ACTUALLY a case called McCain v. Wisconsin Right to Life does need some explaining)...

A person wrote this...

Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (BCRA), popularly known as McCAIN-Feingold made it a "federal crime for any corporation
to broadcast, shortly before an election, any communication that names a federal candidate for elected office and is targeted to the electorate." (Such as Pro-Life)
(overturned in McCain v. Wisconsin Right to Life)

Not only did it restrict Free Speach, it also worked against Pro-Life.

McCain voted AGAINST the Marriage Amendment 7-14-04 and again on 6-7-6

McCain Voted AGAINST National Right to Life Issues 25% of the time in 2005-2006
18% of the time in 2003-2004 and
67% of the time in 2001-2002.

McCain Voted AGAINST Family Research Council and American Family Association issues 38% of the time in 2006
34% of the time in 2005
33% of the time in 2004
0% of the time in 2003
25% of the time in 2002
33% of the time in 2001

1/18/2008 07:53:00 PM  
Blogger Nicholas Byfleet said...

Granted I may not know the intricacies of all of the candidates plans and policies, but I do have an honest question about mike huckabee - if he cares so much about Christ, why did he stop pastoring his church and go into politics?

1/18/2008 10:30:00 PM  
Blogger Stephen Jones said...

It's worth noting that Fred Thompson received the endorsement of National Right to Life, because of his "long-standing pro-life record, his commitment to unborn
children, and our belief in his ability to win."

1/19/2008 12:48:00 AM  
Blogger Paul said...

In response to Nicholas - perhaps Huckabee believes that Jesus Christ has all authority in heaven and earth, and therefore has something to say about politics. I don't think there's automatically a need to suspect someone (a fellow brother in Christ) for leaving the pastorate.

1/19/2008 03:54:00 AM  
Blogger Nicholas Byfleet said...

In response to Paul,

If you see pastoral ministry as simply a job then I can see why you might come to that conclusion, but pastoral ministry is a calling and a lifestyle that one cannot simply walk away from. Furthermore I would venture to say that God cares more about the state of his church than the state of the government - but then again, I have been known to make these bold assertions and then been proved completely wrong so take my opinion for what it is - the opinion of a 17 year old who thinks he knows far more than he probably does.

1/19/2008 11:12:00 AM  
Blogger Evan said...

Bull said: "By the way, Ron Paul doesnt support an amendment to the Constitution. He believes the states should decide. The only way he would amend it is if the states all agreed. Just wanted to point that out."

You are not giving an accurate representation of Ron Paul's position. FYI he actually wrote the sanctity of life act and tried to pass it at least 3 times. I encourage people to take a look at his website and view the quick video at the top of that page.

1/19/2008 01:24:00 PM  
Blogger Bull said...

To Nicolaus....there are men in the past who have turned down political positions...such as Billy Graham who was actually offered a cabinet position at one time. And then there are other politicians who have been preachers or pastors who have gone into the political realm who have made positive contributions. There have been laymen also like Wilberforce who have done great work. King David, King Solomon, Jeremiah....these and many others were involved in government and politics. So, I wouldnt say there is a rule that you cant go into politics. If you want to know the real reasons Huckabee did it there is a lengthy biographical movie on it. One of the main reason was abortion. He wanted to fight it. Also, I think you are missing the point that God cares about what it right and hates sin. And as an agent of Salt and Light in the world, it is a good thing for honest guys like Huckabee to get involved in the political process which we in our country have the privilege to be involved in.

to Steven....I think its absurd that they endorsed him. I think they jumped the gun and their endorsement doesnt make any sense because Thompson DOESNT support an abortion amendment UNLESS the states agree on it. Which is absurd and illogical. Just goes to prove that sometimes even the groups that claim to be the biggest fighters against an evil can be wrong in how they fight. We've seen that constantly in the history of some churches.

to evan...I believe that I am. I have listened to Paul on debates and speeches and he DOES NOT support an abortion amendment unless the states agree. here's a quote from the website you mentioned. "I am strongly pro life. Life begins at conception ... but, I do not believe this should be a federal matter."

here's another quote from that website...." Under the 9th and 10 amendments, all authority over matters not specifically addressed in the Constitution remains with state legislatures. Therefore the federal government has no authority whatsoever to involve itself in the abortion issue. So while Roe v. Wade is invalid, a federal law banning abortion across all 50 states would be equally invalid."

My point is that Paul believes that the federalism of the Constitution here trumps everything...including deciding whether abortion is wrong or right. If he really beleived that it was murder(or was consistent with his belief), then he would pass an amendment to outlaw abortion. Our constitution is set up to be amended in apporpriate circumstances. So, the arguement is clear, vote for a guy like Huckabee if you care about abortion because he believes that its not a state issue or a social issue or just a religious issue....its a human issue and we need to make it illegal.

This is logic people. If you really beleive that abortion is murder, then we need, among other things, a federal law that outlaws it in our country.
Go Huckabee!!

1/19/2008 02:22:00 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

Thanks Justin, for this article. A couple of months ago I leaned toward Huckabee, in part because of some excellent articles I read on this site. Since then I have concluded that the economic policies advocated (past and present) by McCain, Huckabee, and Guliani all have serious weaknesses. Huckabee's views on social issues appear to be closest to mine, but as this article points out, McCain's record, at least on abortion,is very good. If he were President, I am confident he would appoint Roberts/Alito type judges. When it comes to the war against Islamic Jihadists, which may be the most important issue of our time, I think Huckabee's lack of depth has become apparent and McCain is clearly the best candidate. Even though McCain's views and votes has disappointed me numerous times over the years, I suspect I will be voting for him on Feb. 5. Yes, I probably am also influenced by the fact that he is the only Republican candidate who is currently polling ahead of Clinton and Obama. Not having either of them as our next President is my number one political priority.

1/19/2008 04:13:00 PM  
Blogger Bull said...

I think thats sad Dan, thats defensive voting. You should not be influenced by polls and you should not vote for the guy that can beat the guys or gal that you dont like. thats just my opinion.

And also, as I have said, if you really care about abortion....yes, according to this article McCains votes might be good (though that is debatable)

still, you should vote for the guy who is going to get the job done. And as far as Huckabee's lack of depth, I dont know what you mean. He seems to me to have a whole lot of depth and broad range of experience on issues. Now...you wont believe that if all you do is listen to the media. But, if you research the man, you'll see he is a one of a kind jack of all trades honest, experienced, conservative, sincere candidate.

He has the strongest stance on abortion.

1/19/2008 06:15:00 PM  
Blogger Gavin Ortlund said...

McCain is also the strongest of the Republican candidates on environmental issues.

1/20/2008 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger Kirk said...

For those who suggest that you shouldn't vote based on who is most electable, I suggest that is precisely how you should be thinking. What good is it to have a candidate who is perfect on the social (or other) issues but has virtually no chance of winning against a very popular and well-funded Democrat who will surely extend the life of Roe v. Wade another generation by appointing only pro-choice judges?

The Democrats' biggest fear is that Republicans are savvy enough to nominate John McCain as the Republican candidate. Ask any national media person, and you will find that this is precisely what Democrats say in private.

Unless you want Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama to be President in January 2009, vote for John McCain. I'm sorry, folks, but Mike Huckabee is unelectable, and some of his far-out comments on the constitution have made him lose any shot at McCain's VP.

1/21/2008 05:30:00 PM  
Blogger Chad said...

Ron Paul has written that the ideal way to end abortion is to get rid of Roe vs. Wade and let the states outlaw abortion. He has also stated that an alternative to that is to outlaw abortion through a Constitutional Amendment. One way or the other, Ron Paul would do everything in his power to outlaw abortion. Have you heard that "Jane Roe," who is now a leading pro-life activist, had endorsed Ron Paul? Ron Paul is the pro-life choice.

1/27/2008 12:04:00 PM  

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